Manny Pacquiao VS Juan Manuel Marquez, a go on May 8!

[bluez]

Mga kabayan, tuloy na po ang laban ni Manny Pacquiao against Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico.

Considered as the best featherweigths in the world today, this match-up promises to be a hell of a fight. The boxers have different fighting styles that will make this bout a sure favorite to any boxing fan. Manny is the aggressive southpaw fighter who became famous for his relentless attack and demolition job against former pound for pound great Marco Antonio Barrera. Marquez on the other hand is the orthodox counter puncher and owns two featherweight crowns.

Let's pray for a Pacquiao win folks!!

[bluez]

MANNY PACQUIAO / JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ

Filipino Nationality Mexican

December 17, 1978 Date of Birth August 23, 1973

25 Age 30

67" Reach 67"

Southpaw Stance Orthodox

5' 6" Height 5' 7½

People's Champion Belt WBA/IBF Champion

1 World Rank 2

41 Fights 44

38 Wins 42

2 Losses 2

1 Draws 0

30 KOs 33

[albert8]

mabigat pala ang kalaban na yan! good luck na lang kay manny!:)

[Maginoong Bastos]

I cant wait for this fight:bounce:

http://mannypacquiao.ph/images/pacman_vs_dinamita.jpg

[BLISSITORO]

Another Pacquiao sparmate punished

By winneleo campos

LOS ANGELES – April 5, 2004. At the end of six bruising rounds atop the ring, Armenian Art Simonyan playfully planted a kick on Manny Pacquiao’s behind. It was the only time he had the upperhand on the Filipino pug.

Stepping up his preparation for a May 8 bout against world featherweight king Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao knocked down the undefeated Armenian in the first round of a sparring session at Freddie Roach’s Wild Card gym in Hollywood.

A few days after cracking the rib of another Armenian fighter, Kahren Harutyunyan, in training, the 25-year old GenSan southpaw sent Simonyan to the canvas with a left straight even before fans who had come to watch him at the gym could settle in their places.

He held back the rest of the way, finishing the six rounds on his heels then responded to Simonyan’s kick with a spinning back-kick that narrowly missed his opponent’s head.

Simonyan is 13-0-1 (win-loss-draw) as a pro and has never been knocked down in his career, sources said.

"Masaya si Manny sa ensayo, kumakain ng tama at focused na focused doon sa laban," said Lito Mondejar, a member of Team Pacquiao.

Pacquiao has now got it 18 rounds of sparring on Monday-Wednesday-Friday sessions in preparation for his bout with Marquez, whose WBA and IBF featherweight titles the Filipino covets to legitimize his claim to be the king of the world in the division.

Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays are reserved for gym work, calisthenics and sessions with the punch mitt with Roach.

"Manny is easy to deal with. He assimilates everything that you teach him and he learns things very fast," said Roach, unable to hide his satisfaction over the pace of Pacquiao’s preparation.

On Monday, a new sparring partner that will come all the way from Mexico will be fed to Pacquiao to give him a new perspective on how to adapt to a fight.

Roach said the boxer fights like Marquez in some ways.

At the end of sparring sessions, Pacquiao, together with Filipino trainer Buboy Fernandez and Mondejar, studied Marquez’s fight tapes and took note of several weaknesses in his opponent’s style, whose technical approach to boxing had been his meal ticket to success.

"Makikita na lang niya sa laban ang inihahanda namin," said Pacquiao of his fight plan. "Magaling s’ya sa counter-punching pero papasukin namin siya."

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Reported from Los Angeles

[BLISSITORO]

Four boxing aficionados/experts (daw) analyzed the coming Marquez-Pacquiao match in a recent article published bby a U.S. boxing magazine.

You'll be surprised at their opinion. I will give it to you later, guyz.

[albert8]

wag mo naman kaming ibitin, i-post mo na dito!:)

[BLISSITORO]

Yamo mamya. Ala kasi sa website, so I gotta type it pa from the mag. La pakong time ngayon. ;) :angel:

[BLISSITORO]

Here is Max Kellerman, studio analyst for ESPN2's Friday Night Fights.

"It could be argued that this is the best fight in boxing.. The top guys at featherweight have ducked Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez has a real strong argument that he's the best featherweight in the world, and he could have been the best for the last six or seven years. He never got the chance to prove himself because everyone who is someone in that division avoided him.

"There is so much to like about Marquez. He reminds me of a two-handed Oscar de la Hoya. Marquez is not as crowd-pleasined as Manny Pacquiao, but he's technically superior. The only question is how he's going to respond to a dogfight, because you know he'll be in a dogfight with Pacquiao.

"I like Marquez on paper, but Pacquiao is the ultimate guy who tears up that paper. Pacquiao's quick hands are explosive, and let's not kid ourselves, he beat the stuffing of Marco Antonio Barrera. Should Pacquiao beat Marquez, he should be considerd as one of the very best pound-for-pound fighters today, but Pacquiao has been stopped and Marquez can punch.

"The question early on is how Pacquiao responds to Marquez's accurate punching, and how Marquez reacts to Pacquiao's all-out attack. I lean toward Marquez reacting better. He's the more accurate puncher, the more complete fighter, and he'll be able to withstand Pacquiao's charges much better than Pacquiao will be able to respond to what Marquez does. "


Bliss' count:
Marquez, 1
Pacquiao, 0
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Source:
KO
The Knockout Boxing Magazine
June 2004 issue

Next: Boxer Derrick Gainer
Coming: Showtime's Al Bernstein
Last: World junior feather champ Paulie Ayala

[bluez]

Max Kellerman is one of boxing's biggest joke. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Most often than not, his fight predictions are inaccurate.

[BLISSITORO]

bluez, sinabi mo! ;)

[BLISSITORO]

Here now is boxer Derrick Gainer, rated 6th at featherweight by KO Magazine; lost a technical decision to Marquez in November 2003.

"I think it is a very interesting match-up, especially with Pacquiao coming off one of the biggest upsets of last year, beating Marco Antonio Barrera. But stylistically, it might not be the best fight for Pacquiao. Marquez is not going to be there for him to land those big shots. What people don't understand is that Marquez is a counterpuncher first, who doesn't commit to his punches. That's not good for Pacquiao.

"Pacquiao punches very well, and he's in a very, very good condition. He took a better punch that I thought he could against Barrera. His speed is very good and his power is trmenedous. He reminds me of a more polished Ricardo Mayorga.

"Pacquiao's only weakness may be that he's overaggressive. He will unload with all of these big shots, and he'll leave himself open. That will play right into the hands of Marquez.

"Marquez stays ready to fight at all times and he throws good conunterpunches. He punches at very good angles. He's not a typical Mexican fighter, and I knew going into my fight with him that our fight would be boring. He did more of nothing that I did, in my opinion. That would be a weakness. Marquez could wait for Pacquiao to actually commit. Marquez is slower than Pacquiao. I saw all of Marquez' punches coming.

"I'll put my money on Marquez, and the reason is that Marquez has been fighting at featherweight much longer. Pacquiao is going to waste a lot more energy getting to Marquez. I see Marquez winning by a seventh round knockout."

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Bliss' count:
Marquez, 2
Pacquiao, 0


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Source:
KO
The Knockout Boxing Magazine
June 2004 issue

[BLISSITORO]

Your comment, guys? You agree with him?

[albert8]

2-0? no way! kapag ang mga birada ni pacquiao pumasok kahit minsan lang tiyak na mayayanig ang kalaban ang kaso imposibleng minsan lang pumasok ang job ni pacquiao tapos kondisyon pa sya! ilan na ba napagbagsak nyang ka-sparring? let's wait and see!

[brownred]

yan din ang sabi nila before his fight with barrera, mas grabe pa nga ang prediction nila nuon. i think he was 1-8 odd to win against their idol but what really happened inside the ring was totally the opposite, talagang nagmukhang kawawa si barrera, at ang masakit pa nun pagkatapos, barrera gave some lousy alibis into why he didnt performed well which were all totally bullsh#t, the fact is they cant accept that their legendary idol was beaten by a filipino fighter. i hope when pacquiao finishes marquez off this may, they can start believing to the greatness of pacquiao.....my prediction...pacman k.o. marquez in 5th round...

[albert8]

nakataya ba yung belt ni juan manuel marquez?kung oo, then mas paghuhusayan ni pacquiao ito....tiyak yan!And if he wins then tiyak siyang rerespetuhin ng mga personahe sa boksing. :)

[BLISSITORO]

By
Al Bernstein, color analyst for Showtime Championship Boxing

That's an excellent fight. You know neither man will give up much ground. They're both action fighters who aren't afraid to go after their opponents. I know Marquez has had some ugly, ugly fights against lefties like Freddie Norwood and Derrick Gainer. But I can't see this being one of those fights.

The interesting thing about Manny Pacquiao is that while he's an action fighter, he's not a disaster on defense. So toward that end, we have to look at him as a better boxer/puncher than we thought . He certainly showed that against Marco Antonio Barrera. Who thought that could have happened? What Pacquiao showed was that he has very good hand speed and excellent power. But you can get to Pacquiao if you're an accurate puncher.

That brings us to Marquez. He's a precise puncher, who knows how tro use the ring and throws very hard punches. Marquez can sometimes be a little one-dimensional, and I think he can certainly be outboxed. But I don't think Marquez would have to worry about being outboxed by Pacquiao, and won't have to go chasing him.

In the grand scheme of things, I might have to go with Marquez because he might be a little more of an accurate puncher. But that's a very timid endorsement. I really believe this is one of those fights that would be waged with both fighters in front of each other, landing significant punches the first three or four rounds. I don't see it going the distance. I see Marquez winning by late-round stoppage. And this is the kind of fight that can turn into the start of a trilogy.

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Count so far:
Marquez, 3
Pacquiao, 0

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Source:
KO
The Knockout Boxing Magazine
June 2004 issue

[BLISSITORO]

By
Paulie Ayala, reigning World Junior Featherweight Champion

I think this is a more dangerous fight for Manny Pacquiao than it would be for Juan Manuel Marquez. Marquez is a well-rounded fighter, and he's been at featherweight for a longer time. Marquez is a tougher fighter to beat right now.

In Pacquiao's fight against Barrera, that didn't seem like the Barrera we're all used to seeing. All the things around Barrera, with the metal plate, and having to move during training because of the fires, that was all a lot on Barrera's head prior to the fight. I don't want to take anything away from Manny. He's obviously a hard puncher and better prepared for the fight. Pacquiao was at the right place at the right time, but I've heard that he has problems in his camp as Barrera had with his. To fight at this level, you have to be focused. What happened to Barrera could happen to Pacquiao.

Pacquiao's conditioning was excellent, but Barrera wasn't very offensive, like he usually was. Barrera was just stationary, and he was there to be hit. Pacquiao never seemed like he got tired.

Marquez is a classic tactician. He can obviously hit, and he throws good combinations, has a good reach, and he's also a very accurate puncher. His defense is very good, and he can take a punch. I really don't see very many weaknesses with Marquez. And he's learned to deal with southpaws since Freddie Norwood, so he shouldn't have any problems with Pacquiao's style.

This should be a very interesting fight and a good fight for boxing. It could go either way, and whoever forces his will will win the fight. I like Marquez by late-round stoppage, though. Marquez' more accurate punching will be the difference.

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Final count:
Marquez, 4
Pacquiao, 0

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Source:
KO
The Knockout Boxing Magazine
June 2004 issue, Pp. 20-21

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[BLISSITORO]

Do you, guys, think like me that these 4 "experts" will eat their words after May 6th? ;)

Your thoughts, please.

Go!

[bluez]

These guys don't know what they are talking about.

Everytime that Manny fights, he always bring something new into the ring especially after his last lost which was several years ago. For example, he showed patience against Emmanuel Lucero before putting him to sleep. He showed improvement on his defense against Ledwaba as well as bringing in the same power that he always possess. Against Barrera, Manny showed extreme hand speed and work rate all through out 11 rounds. I noticed that his defense has improved a lot while he can now take hard shots.

What about Marquez? He is the featherweight division's avoided one. The clown Hamed ducked him, Barrera did not even hinted on figthing him and Morales went up to the super feather. Marquez have two belts which he won over Medina and the running man Gainer. Marquez is one of the best counter-puncher in the world while possessing great patience and superb power. However, Marquez is slow and that would be the difference on this fight. Pacquiao will be too quick for Marquez. He will be inside throwing two to three punches and then he is out of there and eventually frustrating Marquez.

My prediction?? Pacquiao in late round stoppage.

[BLISSITORO]

Nice retort there, dude! Can you expand it a lil bit more. Sayang I could have sent this to KO MAG to counter those "experts' " opinions. ;)

Frankly, am not that familiar with Pacquiao. Having seen him fight only twice. Most what I know about him is from readings.

bluez, want me to submit your bit to KO Mag?

Wat u sey? :)

[BLISSITORO]

Where is our nationalistic pride?

Four experts [daw] have given Marquez a 4-0 clean slate...

and not one of you guys raising cain? Meaning you accept
those Kumags' one-sided verdict?

Tsk, tsk. I'm mega-disappointed, you know?

:( :frown: :mad: :gr:

[albert8]

:) lolo bliss......ano pa man ang sabihing ng mga kumag na yan sa knockout ay wala na akong pakialam ang gusto ko na lang ngayon ay dumating na ang araw ng laban at malaman ng mga kumag na ya na nagkamali nanaman sila ng judging. :)

Masmasarap kapag madami kang nadidisappoint na kalaban....masmasaya!:D

[BLISSITORO]

Well, albert,, ika nga sa sports, bilog ang bola.

Tsaka ang boxing gloves. :D :D :D

[albert8]

finally lolo, meron na rin pumabor kay pacquiao nakalimutan ko nga lang ang source pero nabasa ko sa diyaryo kahapon and hinalaw sya mula sa magasin. :)

Tiyak na magandang bakbakan `to sayang nga lang at di ko mapapanood sapagkat may pasok!:)

[BLISSITORO]

Daig kita. May tiket na ako dito.
Dun lang sa $200 seats. Ubos na kasi ang VIP $300 seats.
Pero tama na yun. Amoy na dun ang anghit ni Marquez
at pawis ni Pacquiao! :D :D :D

I'll be in Vegas May 6th to 12th. A week of R & R and B & S. ;)

Also on tap, already with tix, are the comedic magicians Penn & Teller at the Rio Casino, Lance Burton at MonteCarlo , Danny Gans at the Mirage, Wayne Newton at Stardust and Celine Dion at Caesar's Palace.

Tara kayo! ;)

[albert8]

daya mo lolo bliss....what about my ticket?hehehe!:)

[BLISSITORO]

Yamo, albert, pagkagamit ko ay ipapamail ko saiyo! :D

Nga pala, there's a Pinoy comedian (daw) named Navarette sumzing performing at The Orleans this month. But not being anti-nationalistic pero methinks I won't plunk my hard earned dollahs on someone I do not know from Dolphy! ;)

And a singer named Gary Valenciano (?) doing his thing on the Strip. Have heard of this dude, but he's not worth my time, money and effort. Sowee 'bout that! :)

Last Dec-Jan, when my doter Imee was married at Caesar's Palace, Martin NIevera and Pops Fernandez were having a sold-out performance at The Orleans. I bought tix for my LIFE and their spouses/BF-GF, but I did not go.

Malas lang nila. Dahil Britney Spears was wowing crowds at the Palms at the same time. So there I went.

Pero malas ko rin. Di ako ang pinakasalan ni Britney kahit magsama kami lang kami ng 48 hours! ;) :D :lolz:

[albert8]

Sa'yo na lang lolo bliss....akala ko bibigyan mo ako ng sarili kong ticket kasama ang plane ticket papunta dyan.

the name of the comedian is willie and i'm pretty sure na di ka matutuwa sa kanya for one your anti-erap...sya ang taga gaya ni erap. :)

gary valenciano is worth watching but i don't really watch his concerts.....why watch a concert worth a few thousand php when you can watch his performance in tv after a month......besides i'm not into...

too bad lolo di mo nabreak ang record ni justin timberlake!:)

[brownred]

The Computer Picks Marquez vs. Pacquiao
By Thomas Gerbasi (May 4, 2004)
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It’s a bout that has split the boxing world, this Saturday’s featherweight unification battle between Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao. Half of the people are picking Marquez, the other half Pacquiao, and each half may swing to the other side before the first bell rings at the MGM Grand. One thing is certain though; this is a great fight, and one that every self-respecting fight fan must check out.

But who will win? Thankfully, through the wonders of modern technology, Title Bout Championship Boxing, the premier boxing simulator, is here to help us determine who is more likely to be crowned unified featherweight king come Saturday night. How I love to take the easy way out.

If you’ve followed the way we do things with these type of breakdowns, we run the fights through the sim’s autoscheduler 100 times to get a decent statistical sample. Now since Marquez is rated as a boxer and a slugger in the program, we ran 100 fights with JMM as a slugger, and 100 as a boxer.




The results were surprising, not because of who won, but by the margins of victory. With Marquez fighting as a boxer, Pacquiao won 79% of the 100 matches, with 75 of those victories coming by knockout. Marquez only won 20% of the bouts with 16 early wins. When Marquez fought as a slugger and took the fight to the “Pac-Man” the results were even worse, with the Philippine bomber winning 84% of the 100 bouts, with all but one win coming by KO or TKO. Marquez won 15 of his 16 bouts in this second hundred by knockout.

So it looks like a blowout for Manny Pacquiao, but that’s why they fight ‘em. Let’s step into the ring at the MGM Grand. Your referee is Mr. Fair but Firm, Joe Cortez.

ROUND ONE – Both men are in peak condition and are raring to go as they wait for the first bell to ring. Pacquiao comes out bobbing and weaving as he approaches the center of the ring. Marquez rips off a quick 1-2 to the head and the crowd erupts. Pacquiao shakes it off and shoots in with a flush left to the jaw and Marquez falls to the canvas just 44 seconds into the fight. Marquez rises at the count of five and Cortez waves him back into action. Marquez backpedals into the corner with his guard held high as Pacquiao moves in. Marquez is trying to clear his head and he is moving well. Pacquiao tries the left again but Marquez catches it on his shoulder. He isn’t able to elude the left hook to the body by Pacquiao though, and he grunts upon impact. Pac-Man lands a left to the top of the head and follows it up with a right uppercut, putting JMM in trouble again. Marquez still has to survive 45 seconds, and he just eludes a sweeping left that could have ended it. Pacquiao is putting his punches together beautifully, but Marquez is hanging tough. The bell rings, ending a wild opening round. ROUND TO PACQUIAO BY TWO POINTS

ROUND TWO – The fighters meet at ring center and trade quick combinations. Pacquiao comes in wide and gets nailed with a crisp uppercut to the jaw. Pacquiao staggers briefly. Marquez moves in and throws with both hands. Pacquiao shoots out his left again, backing Marquez up. Now it’s Marquez’ turn to get rubber-legged. 1:30 left in the round, and for the first time in the fight, the boxers clinch. After the break Marquez moves in with a lightning fast right that nails Pacquiao, who begins to bleed from his lip. Pacquiao backs out with his hands down and pays for it, as Marquez puts him down with a left hook to the jaw. Pacquiao is up at three but his legs are unsteady. 30 seconds left. Marquez misses a wild left hook but lands with a brutal straight right. Pacquiao staggers to the ropes as the bell rings, saving him. ROUND TO MARQUEZ BY TWO POINTS

ROUND THREE – The fans have yet to sit down in this one, and the fighters barely hear the bell to begin the round. Pacquiao’s right eye is swelling up, and he clinches as Marquez moves in. Marquez nails Pac-Man with a heavy left hook, sending water spraying from his head. Pacquiao answers with a wild right that misses and Marquez makes him pay with a right of his own. As he moves in for the kill Marquez gets nailed with an uppercut to the jaw and the tide has turned again. Pacquiao lands a stiff 1-2, but Marquez answers with a combination of his own as the two wage war. Marquez lands a short uppercut on the inside and follows it up with a screaming left hook that hurts Pacquiao. ROUND TO MARQUEZ

ROUND FOUR – Pacquiao looks like he’s been through hell, while Marquez is unmarked. Both men actually decide to box for the first minute of the round, with JMM holding a slight edge. Midway through the round Pacquiao gets nailed again by a big Marquez uppercut and shakes his head in disgust. Pacquiao fires back and scores effectively, but just when he’s getting into a rhythm, Marquez wisely holds. Marquez lands a stiff jab and now Pacquiao is bleeding from a large cut over his right eye. Corte is watching Pacquiao carefully as his face is showing the effects of Marquez’ punches. ROUND TO MARQUEZ

ROUND FIVE – Marquez comes out jabbing but just when you thought he was going to coast to a win, Pacquiao explodes with a savage hook to the jaw, and Marquez is down for the second time in the fight. Cortez counts, and a clearly hurt Marquez needs the ropes to get up at the count of nine. Here comes Pac-Man, drilling Marquez with a 1-2 to the head. Pacquiao has Marquez on the ropes and two minutes to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. Pacquiao throws a series of blows but Marquez is able to deflect them. He isn’t able to get out of the way of a right cross to the head though. One minute to go, Pacquiao shoots two jabs through Marquez’ gloves and sends in a howitzer of a right hand that lands with a thud. Marquez’ legs start to sag and Cortez jumps in to halt the bout before any further damage can be done.

The time is 2:10 of round number five. Your winner…by technical knockout…the IBF and WBA featherweight champion of the world…Manny Pacquiao.

At the time of the stoppage, Marquez led 38-36 on all three judges’ scorecards.

[brownred]

tignan nyo pati computer thinks pacqiao will win. malapit ng ang laban, pwede ng magpustahan...hehehe

[brownred]

A 50-50 Fight
15 Rounds by Steve Kim (May 3, 2004)
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Now that we got all the heavyweights out of the way, we can turn our attention to some real fights. This Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Manny Pacquiao takes on Juan Manuel Marquez for not just featherweight supremacy but for a higher place in the pound-for-pound pantheon. On paper, it looks like one of the premier matchups of recent years.

This bout is also one of the hardest to make a call on.

It's one of those questions that I continuously flip-flop on, with no definitive answer, like who was better this year, Lebron James or Carmelo Anthony? Who makes me laugh more, Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock? Who was the

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All those questions go could either way, with compelling arguments on both sides.

Bob Arum, who knows a thing or two about promoting featherweight blockbusters, says that Pacquiao-Marquez is right up there with both Marco Antonio Barrera-Erik Morales bouts that his company promoted.

"This may be the best," said Arum, who promotes Marquez. "This certainly is up with the Morales-Barrera fights; those are obviously the best that we did. But this is such an intriguing fight because people are looking at Pacquiao, off his destruction of Barrera, which was incredible, and the question is, was Barrera so bad or Pacquiao so good or a combination of both? And I've always felt the best technical fighter in the featherweight division is Marquez."

One of the great things about this fight is that from a promotional and managerial standpoint, it goes against the book. Most fighters, after a career defining win like the one the 'Pac Man' had over Barrera last November, would go on a victory tour against lesser opponents. It's not only an accepted practice, it's expected. But Pacquiao and his people have done just the opposite by going right after the division's most dangerous foe.

"They believe, in talking with Murad and those people, that Pacquiao is the real deal and that Pacquiao can beat anybody at this weight," explains Arum, who was a bit surprised at how easily this fight was made. "They didn't want to just nurse Pacquiao around as a semi-attraction. Their great goal is, after Barrera, to beat Marquez and then have a major fight with Morales and claim supremacy over the Mexicans."

That's some hubris, Marquez as a mere steppingstone.

"If you have confidence in your guy to that extent, it's a gutsy move, I understand." Arum continued. "But Bruce Trampler (Top Rank's highly respected matchmaker) would not have made that move because we think Pacquiao's a very good fighter, but we don't think he's that good that you make a risky fight like this. But they are convinced that Pacquiao is the best thing to come down this weight or the next weight in this era."

Even Freddie Roach, who trains Pacquiao concedes that Marquez would not have been his first choice, post-Barrera.

"Stylewise, he's definitely the most trouble because of his counterpunching style," says the 2003 Trainer of the Year.

Pacquiao has no pretense in his style; he comes right at you with a whirlwind of punches from every angle with malicious intent - which is precisely what Marquez wants. In recent years, Marquez's opponents have been so weary of being timed and countered that they have basically resorted to a pact of non-aggression against him. Marquez has had to go looking for his prey in his most recent fights. That shouldn't be a problem with Pacquiao.

Marquez looks to be the bigger fighter of the two and unlike a Barrera, he doesn't come in with a whole lot of distractions. No management changes, no talk of his health being at risk if he continued fighting, and he has trained in relative solitude in Mexico City, with no evacuation plans needed just weeks before the fight.

He's a guy I've said for years is the best of the relatively unknown fighters, and he's finally getting his big chance and hitting his physical prime. But it's hard not to be influenced by seeing Pacquiao work out several times a week at the Wild Card Boxing Club. Living not too far off from Roach's gym, I've had an opportunity to see him ply his trade for the last several fights. Before the Barrera fight, he worked as diligently as any fighter I've ever seen, and his work ethic is at the level of a Bernard Hopkins. For this fight, he's working even harder.

"Definitely," agreed Roach, who says the Filipino is the hardest worker he's ever been around. "This kid is non-stop; the energy he brings in the gym is unbelievable. I mean he's hungry, he's not satisfied after beating Barrera, and you can see it; he's as hungry as he ever was and he's ready to fight."

For Roach, unlike most boxers, who he has to push, with Pacquiao it's about pulling in the reins.

"Sometimes I do, but I don't always have the best luck because the S.O.B. goes to the hotel room and works out," Roach says laughing. "If I don't let him
do something, he'll go do it outside."

And in an age where training camps are run with the privacy and paranoia of the the CIA or KGB (and yet losing fighters still come up with conspiracy theories as to why they lost), Roach and his fighter have run a virtual open house for Pacquiao's legion of loyal Filipino fans.

It seems as the days get closer to May 8th, more and more of them are streaming in to get a glimpse of their national icon. And while some - well, most - fighters and trainers might bristle at outsiders coming into their gym, Pacquiao seems to be more gracious as the numbers grow inside the gym. Roach, for one of the few times, had instituted a closed gym policy on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays - the days where Pacquiao spars. But that only served to slow the entrance of patrons, because eventually, Roach's assistants, Macka Foley and Justin Fortune, who serves as Pacquiao's physical conditioner, just don't possess the cold hearts to shut anybody out. They'd make terrible bouncers.

"It's somewhat of a distraction," Roach says of the overflow crowd that has been coming into his place. "But on the other hand, Manny kinda thrives and likes to perform for an audience. So it's a little distracting in one way but it helps in other ways. We're trying to keep it under control. Basically it's more for my other fighters working out here because I got 50 people in a little gym, and it gets a little bit crazy."

Judging by the adulation he receives daily, it's clear just how big a fight this is to the Filipino community. If he should topple Marquez, you get the sense that he will become the modern day Flash Elorde. But if Marquez is victorious, he adds his name to the list of great Mexican featherweights.

It's a 50-50 fight.

"Who knows who's right?" said Arum. "We'll just have to see that on May 8th."

[BLISSITORO]

Originally posted by brownred
tignan nyo pati computer thinks pacqiao will win. malapit ng ang laban, pwede ng magpustahan...hehehe
I've placed a $5,000 bet on our guy. Pray for my bets. Andaming diapers nun para sa apo ko! Nggiiiii!

BTW, Pacquiao's win over Barerra made my son richer by $35,000 (for a mere $1,000 bet, biro nyo yon!). Mega inggit ako sa kanya, yamot sa sarili ko dahil he tried hard to convince me to be nationalistic and put my money on Manny.

So natalo ang $1000 ko. Buti na lang binalatuhan ako niya ako ng $5,000. Kaya ok na rin. Iyon ang ipinusta ko ngayon kay Manny.

My son is putting $10 thou. Katwiran niya galing din kay Pacquiao ang perang yon. Iyong $15,000 pa gagamitin niya sa kasal sa May 15th....

WISH US LUCK, GUYS! ;)

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P.s. Baka akala nyo may natira pa syang $5 thou, ha? No, binalato naman sa Mommy niya at 3 sisters.

[albert8]

Astig!yaan mo lolo, may pag-asang lumago ang balato mo!:)

[BLISSITORO]

albert, magdilang-anghel ka sana! Wag lang San Miguel Archangel! :D :D :D

Teka, hijo, halata ko na lagi kang bumubuntot sa mga posts ko, ha? Bakit ba?

You remind me of sam1 before... but that "stalker" (who I admired before) was a she. Ikaw ba'y ano? Sirin? I mean, she rin? :confused: :lolz:

[albert8]

wag kang magalala lolo bliss di mo ako stalker....nagkataon lang na naaaliw ako sa mga reply mo kaya di ko mapigilan na sumabat sa pinagsasabi mo!:D

[bluez]

Originally posted by BLISSITORO
Yamo, albert, pagkagamit ko ay ipapamail ko saiyo! :D

Nga pala, there's a Pinoy comedian (daw) named Navarette sumzing performing at The Orleans this month. But not being anti-nationalistic pero methinks I won't plunk my hard earned dollahs on someone I do not know from Dolphy! ;)

And a singer named Gary Valenciano (?) doing his thing on the Strip. Have heard of this dude, but he's not worth my time, money and effort. Sowee 'bout that! :)

Last Dec-Jan, when my doter Imee was married at Caesar's Palace, Martin NIevera and Pops Fernandez were having a sold-out performance at The Orleans. I bought tix for my LIFE and their spouses/BF-GF, but I did not go.

Malas lang nila. Dahil Britney Spears was wowing crowds at the Palms at the same time. So there I went.

Pero malas ko rin. Di ako ang pinakasalan ni Britney kahit magsama kami lang kami ng 48 hours! ;) :D :lolz:

The name of the guy is Rex Navarette and not Willie as mentioned. Magaling ang mamang yan.. Sya ang may gawa ng Maritess and the Super Friends and SBC Packers. Search those two up sa net para ma-sampolan mo. Hehehehe..

[BLISSITORO]

Ganun ba, albert. Kala ko kasi bakla ka na may crush sa akin! :D BTW, binanggit ko lang dahil kinikilig ako twing makikita ko ang handle mo na kasunod ko. Bakit kamo? Kasi the name of my twin brother who lasted only 20 days [sigh, choke] was, bilibid or not ... ALBERT din. :)

Bluez, thanks! Pero di ko rin sya panunuorin... Kung comedian sya. Kasi tuwing mananalamin ako araw-araw ay may nakikita rin akong comedian!

Bwuahahahaha! NEXT!! :D :D :D

[BLISSITORO]

Pacquiao-Marquez Match
Tough to Call, says Morales

By Rian Jay G. Hernandez and Winneleo Campos, Correspondents

"Pretty even."

That is how three-time world boxing champion Erik “El Terrible” Morales views the fight between Filipino champion Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez for the Mexican’s International Boxing Federation and World Boxing Association featherweight belts on May 8 (May 9 in Manila) at the MGM Grand Hotel Casino in Las Vegas.

“I think it is a very tough fight for both guys with no clear-cut favorite. I think the outcome of the fight will be decided by conditioning and who had the better training camp,” said Morales, the World Boxing Council super featherweight kingpin.

But the boxing website, Fightnews.com reported on Monday that Morales has remained hopeful that fellow countryman Marquez can edge out the feisty Filipino slugger.

“As a Mexican, I’m hopeful that Juan Manuel Marquez will win this fight. We as Mexicans should always support each other,” Morales added.

Morales believes that boxing fanatics are in for a real treat, as both fighters are at the top of their game, the website added.

“Manny Pacquiao is a tough left-handed fighter with experience, but this will only be his second fight in a very tough category and he’s facing a very good boxer in Marquez so he is in for a difficult scrap,” Morales said.

“They are both experienced fighters who seem to be at their best at this time. That’s why is hard to pick a favorite between the two.

“One thing that I’m sure of is that it will be a great fight. Both of these guys come to fight and always give their all inside the ring and because of that the winners here will the fans who go to the fight,” said Morales.

Morales is currently busy promoting two boxing shows under his own banner, Box Latino Promotions.

In the meantime, Pacquiao and Marquez’s gigantic advertising promotional figures loomed so large one can still see it even a hundred yards away in Las Vegas.

And the display on the animated electronic billboard outside the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino put them alongside major attractions like the Eagles and “Material Girl” Madonna here.

Pacquiao was elated to know that his larger-than-life pictures, posters and other promotional materials are displayed brightly 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

His desire to win increased more and more with only five days left before fight night.

The other protagonist—Marquez—still has to arrive on Tuesday along with his entourage directly from his native Mexico City.

Arriving with trainer Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain, his father Rafael Marquez Sr., Dr. Miguel Duran, manager Fernando Beltran and coordinators Jaime Quintana and Guillermo Brito, the Mexican “armada” is expected to get mesmerized by the pomp and glitter that awaits them here.

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From the Manila Times, May 5, 2004

[Maginoong Bastos]

anong kalseng desisyon yun?..knock down ng 3 kalaban draw parin ang desisyon...bad trip!:flaming: :rapid:

[brownred]

swerte talaga ni marquez at mukhang matibay din. biro mo nakabangon pa. nakatikim din ng knockdown si marquez for the first time, dapat ang itawag kay marquez ngayon di na "dynamita" kungdi ay "lucky marquez" na.


http://sports.yahoo.com/box/photo?slug=nvab10505090321.pacquiao_marquez_nvab105&prov=ap

[bluez]

FROM COMPUBOX!!!

COMPUBOX AT RINGSIDE

MAY 8 - LAS VEGAS, NV
MANNY PACQUIAO D 12 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ

Round 13 anyone? The boxing world can hardly wait for the rematch of a fight that barely made it past the first round.
As expected, Manny Pacquiao came out firing from the opening bell vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, who seemed uncomfortable attempting to keep pace with the Filipino buzzsaw-and it nearly cost him the fight. A series of straight left hands dropped Marquez three times in round one. The last knockdown left him flat on his back, the fight seemingly over. The brave champion made it to his feet, and the even braver referee Joe Cortez let the fight continue and Marquez made it out of the round, his nose gushing blood. Judges Guy Jutras and John Stewart scored it 10-6 for Pacquiao. Judge Burt Clements, admittedly not aware he could have scored it 10-6, went 10-7 Pacquiao, and it cost Manny the fight. Clements final score read 113-113, if he scored 10-6 Pacquiao, Manny wins a majority decision and takes home Marquez's belts. Stewart's final tally read 115-110 Pacquiao.

Pacquiao threw 73 punches in round one, landing 11. Marquez, who was actually having a good first round prior to the three knockdowns, landed 13 of his 40 attempts. Pacquiao kept the heat on in round two, landing 18 of his 77 attempts, while Marquez, struggling to get his head together, landed just 8 of 45 attempts, yet Jutras, who scored it 115-110 for Marquez, gave him the round.

By round three Marquez's head had cleared and he began moving effectively to his left, away from Manny's hurtful left hand. Where was Manny's right hook? Marquez outlanded Pacquiao in each of the next four rounds and he was back in the fight, winning those rounds on all 3 judges cards. After averaging 75 punches in rounds one and two, Pacquiao averaged just 42 in rounds three thru six. In fact, Manny averaged 55 punches per round over the last 10. Round seven was a tossup, Pacquiao landed 19 of 51, Marquez 16 of 43. Manny did land 13 of 20 power shots (65%) to Marquez's 14 of 30 (47%) in the seventh,as they traded bombs, one shot-at-a time. Marquez had a slim edge in round 8, landing 11 of 38 to 8 of 43 for Manny. Marquez had a 8-5 edge in power connects, as trainer Freddie Roach urged Manny not to let Marquez take control of the fight, as all three judges scored it for Marquez.


Round 9 could have gone either way. Pacquiao upped his output to 52 punches, landing 16, nine of which were power shots, while Marquez went 15 of 50, his high output for the fight. Marquez landed nine power shots in the ninth. Clements and Jutras gave it to Marquez, Stewart went with Manny. Pacquiao had a six punch edge in connects in round 10, but only a one-punch edge in power connects, but Manny did land 59% of those power punches. Two of the three judges scored for Pacquiao. Only two connects separated the fighter's over the last two rounds, as Marquez went 15 of 53 in the 11th and 11 of 54 in the 12th, while Manny went 13 of 43 in the 11th and 11 of 63, his highest output since round two, in round 12. Clements and Jutras both again went with Marquez, while Stewart gave the 11th to Manny and the 12th to Marquez. It was that kind of fight. In 19 years of existence, CompuBox could not recall so many close rounds, not only in terms of punches connected, but punches thrown as well, discounting the first two rounds.

The final stats read: Pacquiao 148 of 639 (23%) to 158 of 547 (29%) for Marquez in the total punches. Power punches went: 122 of 339 (36%) for Marquez to 100 of 231 (43%) for Pacquiao. This fight was all about power shots, as Marquez landed just 36 of his 208 jabs (175) to 48 of 408 (12%) for Manny.

When asked about the rematch, Marquez's promoter Bob Arum commented, "both guys got beat up tonight, it may not be until the fall." We're sure the boxing world will wait impatiently in anticipation.

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Round 1 - No question 10-6 for Manny


Round 2 - 18 of 77 attempts (Manny)
08 of 45 attempts (JMM)
- who won the round? its Manny very obvious

Round 3 - JMM outlanded Manny, stats wasn't shown
-who won the round? its JMM very obvious

Round 4 - JMM outlanded Manny, stats wasn't shown
- who won the round? its JMM very obvious

Round 5 - JMM outlanded Manny, stats wasn't shown
- who won the round? its JMM very obvious

Round 6 - JMM outlanded Manny, stats wasn't shown
- who won the round? its JMM very obvious

Round 7 - 19 of 51 attempts (Manny)
- 16 of 43 attempts (JMM)
- who won the round? its Manny, very close

Round 8 - 8 of 43 attempts (Manny)
- 11 of 38 attempts (JMM)
- who won the round? its JMM, very close

Round 9 - 16 of 52 attempts (Manny)
- 15 of 50 attempts (JMM)
- who won the round? its Manny, very close

Round 10 - Pacquiao had a six punch edge in connects in round 10, but only a one-punch edge in power connects, but Manny did land 59% of those power punches.
- stats wasn't shown
- who won the round? its Manny very obvious

Round 11 - 13 of 43 attempts (Manny)
- 15 of 53 attempts (JMM)
- who won the round? its JMM , very close

Round 12 - 11 of 63 (Manny)
- 11 of 54 (JMM)
- who won the round?? its a tie.......

Rd.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12


Manny Pacquiao - 10 10 9 9 9 9 10 9 10 10 9 10
(114)

Juan M. Marquez - 6 9 10 10 10 10 9 10 9 9 10 10
(112)