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Old 10-25-2005, 06:49 AM
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from what i can observe of satanism as espoused by cj, its primary purpose seems to be to destry - which is much much easier than to create.....



from someone who believes that the Earth is square should be proven, its an improvement.

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Old 10-25-2005, 02:03 PM
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I'd like to ask, what's wrong with our religion (Roman Catholic) at meron pang nag-mushroom na iba't-ibang religious sects. The Roman Catholic teachings is in my own opinion is the roots of all this religious sects (in the Philippines).

Bakit meron bang mali sa teachings ng Roman Cathloics at gumawa pa yung iba ng sarili nilang religion/style. The likes of Born Again, Iglesia ni Kristo, El Shaddai.

Some don't believe in Rosary/Mary. Why do they have to twist their faith/belief just to make their own religion or para maiba lang.

BTW, I'm a Roman Catholic and this is just my own opinion.

Please comment on this, I need to know your sides.



although i am not a catholic....theres something i hate in my own religion too..and i just want to say that catholicism is the best religion to me...although i wont baptized myself because i just want my belief in GOD to keep in my own self...i do believe in god but i dont think there is a need/duty to go to church and kneel just to say your prayers...really im shy and uncomfortable doing it cause i know deep inside i know i am lying...
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Here are links that could help regarding images, repetitious prayers/rosary, and rule of faith

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the images and the statue of saints in catholic church... my mind keeps telling me it is wrong when i see people praying over the man made statues... carrying statues during prosession...

its like pagans' acts of religion... may mali talaga
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the images and the statue of saints in catholic church... my mind keeps telling me it is wrong when i see people praying over the man made statues... carrying statues during prosession...

its like pagans' acts of religion... may mali talaga


So would you care to emphasize what are those wrongs? If you clicked the links I've provided above you would see how scripture supports those Catholic doctrines.

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ok.. if u dont mind.. these are all wrong...

Images and statues of saints... if u read the Bible, there's no statues in true church. ang pag prosisyon ng mga santo sa daan. Yung sa Quiapo? yung pinag-kakaguluhan ang statue... maraming nsasaktan at namatay... and ang doctrine na 3 ang persona ng Diyos.
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:12 PM
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ok.. if u dont mind.. these are all wrong...

Images and statues of saints... if u read the Bible, there's no statues in true church. ang pag prosisyon ng mga santo sa daan. Yung sa Quiapo? yung pinag-kakaguluhan ang statue... maraming nsasaktan at namatay... and ang doctrine na 3 ang persona ng Diyos.



Ex 20:3-5 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

Does this mean that religious images, including icons and statues and paintings, are wrong. Why are those Catholics running around with graven images around their necks, and with graven images all over their churches? You see, they are bad, evil, despicable!

But wait!


Ex 25: 18-20 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

Whatís God doing commanding Moses to make graven images of angels out of gold? Did God forget His commandment?

But wait! Thereís more!

Numbers 21:8-9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Not only does God tolerate a graven image of a serpent, but He commands it to be made! All this despite Godís command in Exodus 20:4, and despite the fact that the Hebrew were to fall into idolatry later by worshiping the bronze serpent (2 Kings 18:4).

But wait! Thereís yet more!

1 Kings 6:23-28 And within the oracle he made two cherubims of olive tree, each ten cubits high. And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits. And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size. The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub. And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house. And he overlaid the cherubims with gold.

Oh, Solomon you bad, bad boy! You decorated that temple with all those statues, and such. What are you thinking, Solomon? You arenít Catholic! Godís going to kick you in the rear! Here it comes! Here comes God to tell you to rip out all those graven images. Here He comesÖ

1 Kings 9:1-3 And it came to pass, when Solomon had finished the building of the house of the LORD, and the king's house, and all Solomon's desire which he was pleased to do, That the LORD appeared to Solomon the second time, as he had appeared unto him at Gibeon. And the LORD said unto him, I have heard thy prayer and thy supplication, that thou hast made before me: I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

Huh? What? Hey, wait just a minute there, God. I donít mean to be disrespectful, but according to my interpretation of your bible, you shouldnít be saying stuff like that. According to my interpretation you should be telling Solomon to take all those graven images out of that place.

Well, the fact of the matter is, is that that interpretation of Exodus 20:4 is incorrect. Exodus 20:4 obviously doesnít forbid religious imagery such as statues, icons and such. The injunction of 20:4 is to not carve graven images for idol worship. Using religious images in the right manner, without any superstition, is not only appropriate, the above Scripture citations prove that it is biblical. What better way to preach Christ crucified (1 Cor 1:18, 22-24) than by the legitimate use of a religious image such as the crucifix?

About the trinitarian doctrine a close examination of the following New Testament scriptures will make obvious to any student of the Bible that the doctrine of the Godhead is truth.

Matthew 1:20, 21 "the Lord (the Father) ... the Holy Spirit ... Jesus"

Matthew 3:16, 17 "Jesus ... the Spirit of God ... a Voice from heaven (the Father)"

Matthew 12:18 "I ... My Spirit ... on Him"

Matthew 22:42, 43 "Christ ... the Spirit ... Lord (the Father)"

Mark 1:9-11 "Jesus ... the Spirit ... a Voice from heaven ... My beloved Son"

Mark 12:35, 36 "Christ ... the Holy Spirit ... the Lord (the Father)"

Luke 1:35 "the Holy Spirit ... the Highest ... the Son of God"

Luke 2:26, 27 "the Holy Spirit ... Christ ... Jesus"

Luke 3:21, 22 "Jesus ... the Holy Spirit ... a Voice from heaven ... My beloved Son"

Luke 10:21 "Jesus ... the Spirit ... Father"

Luke 12:9, 10 "God ... the Son ... the Holy Spirit"

John 3:5 "Jesus ... the Spirit ... God"

John 3:34, 35 "God ... the Spirit ... the Father ... the Son"

John 4:24, 25 "God ... a Spirit ... Messiah... Christ"

John 14:16, 17, 26 "the Comforter ... the Father ... in My name"

John 15:26 "the Comforter ... the Father ... of Me"

John 20:21, 22 "Jesus ... Father ... the Holy Spirit"

Acts 2:32,33 "Jesus ... God ... the Father ... the Holy Spirit"

Acts 2:38,39 "Jesus Christ ... the Holy Spirit ... God"

Acts 4:30,31 "Jesus ... the Holy Spirit ... God"

Acts 5:31,32 "God ... a Prince and Savior ... the Holy Spirit"

Acts 7:55 "the Holy Spirit ... Jesus ... God"

Acts 8:14_16 "God ... the Holy Spirit ... Jesus"

Acts 10:38 "God ... Jesus ... the Holy Spirit"

Acts 10:46_48 "God ... the Holy Spirit ... the Lord"

Acts 11:16, 17 "the Lord... the Holy Spirit ... God ... the Lord Jesus Christ"

Acts 20:21_23 "God ... Jesus ... the Holy Spirit"

Romans 1:1,3,4 "God ... His Son, Jesus Christ ... the Spirit"

Romans 5:5,6 "God ... the Holy Spirit ... Christ"

Romans 8:2,3 "the Spirit ... Jesus ... God ... His own Son"

Romans 8:8,9 "God ... the Spirit ... the Spirit of Christ"

Romans 8:16, 17 "the Spirit ... God ... Christ"

Romans 14:17, 18 "the Holy Spirit ... Christ... God"

Romans 15:12, 13 "Root of Jesse (Jesus) ... God ... Holy Spirit"

Romans 15:16 "Jesus ... God ... the Holy Spirit"

Romans 15:30 "The Lord Jesus Christ ... the Spirit ... God"

1 Corinthians 6:10, 11 "God ... the Lord Jesus... the Spirit"

I Corinthians 12:4_6 "Spirit ... Lord... God"

1 Corinthians 7:39, 40 "the Lord Jesus ... the Spirit ... God"

1 Corinthians 8:2 "the Lord Jesus ... the Spirit ... God"

2 Corinthians 3:3, 4 "the Spirit ... Christ ... God"

2 Corinthians 13:14 "Jesus... God ... the Holy Spirit"

2 Corinthians 5:5, 6 "God ... the Spirit ... the Lord (Jesus)"

Galatians 4:6, 7 "God ... the Spirit ... Son ... Father ... God ... Christ"

Ephesians 2:18 "through Him (Jesus) ... Spirit ... the Father"

Ephesians 2:21, 22 "the Lord ... God ... the Spirit"

Ephesians 3:14, 16 "the Father ... Jesus Christ ... His Spirit"

Ephesians 4:4-6 "Spirit ... Lord (Jesus) ... God and Father"

Ephesians 5:18-20 "Spirit ... Lord (Jesus) ... God ... Father"

Colossians 1:6-8 "God ... Christ ... Spirit"

1Thessalonians 4:6-8 "Lord (Jesus) ... God ... Holy Spirit"

1 Thessalonians 5:18, 19 "God ... Father ... Christ ... Jesus ... Spirit"

2 Thessalonians 2:13, 14 "God ... Lord... God ... Spirit ... Lord Jesus Christ"

Titus 3:4-6 "God ... Holy Spirit ... Jesus Christ"

Hebrews 2:3, 4 "Lord (Jesus) ... God ... Holy Spirit"

Hebrews 3:4, 6, 7 "God ... Christ... Holy Spirit"

Hebrews 6:4-6 "Holy Spirit ... God ... Son"

Hebrews 9:14 "Christ ... Spirit ... God"

Hebrews 10:29-31 "Son of God ... Spirit ... Lord ... God"

1 Peter 1:2 "God the Father ... Spirit ... Jesus Christ"

1 Peter 3:18 "Christ ... God ... Spirit"

1 Peter 4:14 "Christ ... Spirit ... God"

2 Peter 1:21 "God ... Holy Spirit... Lord (Jesus)"

2 Peter 2:1 "God ... Holy Spirit ... Lord (Jesus)"

1 John 4:2 "Spirit ... Jesus ... God"

1 John 4:13, 14 "Spirit ... Father ... Son ... Savior"

1 John 5:7 "Father... Word ... Holy Spirit"

Jude 20, 21 "the Holy Spirit... God... Lord ... Jesus Christ"

Revelation 1:9, 10 "Jesus Christ ... God ... Jesus Christ ... Spirit"

Revelation 3:5-7 "Father ... Spirit ... He that hath the key of David (Jesus)"

Revelation 14:12, 13 "God ... Jesus ... Lord ... Spirit"

Revelation 21:9, 10 "Lamb ... Spirit ... God"

Revelation 22:16-18 "the offspring of David (Jesus) ... Spirit ... God"

Are these biblical support of the use of images and the trinity invalid?

Peace!

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So does that mean na mali ang practice natin na humarap sa rebulto or sa crucifix/cross when we pray.

I guess it really boils down to whatever you believe in, your faith. We can't say that this religion is wrong and this right.

O eto pa isang puzzling question. Let say we have a muslim, a buddhist, christian or hindu. Then we have this one person who live in a jungle without any contact to a civilized world, no knowledge of religion (parang si Tarzan ) and suddenly he dies.

San sya pupunta. Kukunin ba sya ni Allah-Muslim, o di kaya ni Buddha or God? Sino ang kukuha sa kanya and san sya pupunta since wala syang religion or faith.


hehehe yan lang pla san ba edi sa lupa sabi nga ng bible pagnamaty ka babalik ka sa alikabok...
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iba ang design sa winoworship...

design means to design some place and make it good and holy
design lang naman ung cnabi nya kay moses eh...

but those statues???
nope they worship it... statues can not hear ur prayers...
and pinagiba nya ung mga statues (kay solomon) dahil its a baal the god of pagans...
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To all Born Again Christians..

Question lang bakit yung bible na gamit nyo kulang ng 3 Books/chapters?

Tsaka bakit yung Bible nyo walang tatak ng Imprimatur?

Di ba it is said in the Holy Bible na walang ibabawas and idadagdag?

EH bakit yung bible nyo may kulang na books or chapters ba yun?

Peace :-) just asking.
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Meron dati noong sa tiya pa kasi isa akong Iglesia then noong ngwork biglang lumipat ng catholic dahil sa parents ko.
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RELIGION..... RELIGION.... RELIGION......

bkit kya ndi magkasundo ang lahat ng relihiyon na maging mapagbigay ng biyaya sa kapwa?
------ malamang walang nagugutom na tao sa mundo-----

bkit kya ndi magkasundo ang lahat ng relihiyon na maging mapagkumbaba?
------ malamang walang gulo sa mundo-------

hay naku!! buhay talaga ng tao napakasalimuot!!

I REALLY LOVE RELIGION......
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To all Born Again Christians..

Question lang bakit yung bible na gamit nyo kulang ng 3 Books/chapters?

Tsaka bakit yung Bible nyo walang tatak ng Imprimatur?

Di ba it is said in the Holy Bible na walang ibabawas and idadagdag?

EH bakit yung bible nyo may kulang na books or chapters ba yun?

Peace :-) just asking.



nabasa mo na po ba lahat ng chaters/books ng bible kea mo nasai na kulang ang gamit ng christians na bible? and if it's true anu2x ung kulang nman poh?
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